21-01-2003, 12:14
Si...il y a...mais ça n'éclaircit pas le problème, au contraire...<p>Texte 8 de Myths Transformed, p409: "It seems clearly implied in The Lord of the Rings that trolls existed in their own right but were tinkered ( bricolés, trafiqués)with by Melkor.<p>En note 3 Christopher rappelle l'appendice F "In their beginning,far back in the twilight of the Elder Days, these were creatures of dull and lumpish nature and had no more languages than beasts. But Sauron had made use of them, teaching them what little they could learn, and increasing their wits with wickedness."<p>Il cite ensuite une lettre de Septembre 1954 "I am not sure about trolls. I think they are mere "counterfeits" and hence, (though here, I am of course only using elements of old barbarous mythmaking that had no "aware" metaphysic) they return to mere stone images, when not in the dark. But there are other sort of Trolls beside these rather ridiculous, if brutal, Stone trolls, for which other origins are suggested. Of course...when you make Trolls speack, you are giving them a power, which in our world (probably) connotes the possession of a soul"<p>On semble avoir donc au départ des êtres existant par eux mêmes, stupides, que Sauron asservit sans difficulté. Cette notion de créatures indépendantes ne va pas avec l'idée des Ents corrompus. Ensuite apparait la notion de "contrefaçon" et l'indication d'autres sortes de Trolls pour lesquels une autre origine est suggérée...et je vous parle même pas des Olog Hai, qui sont encore autre chose!<p>Romaine, perplexe.