20-10-2004, 21:09
Voili voilou - j´espère que vous comprenez l´anglais car je n´ai pas le temps de traduire :
- au sujet du combat Glorfindel - Balrog, voici ce que j´ai trouvé, et cela peut s´accorder avec mon explication. Mais cela nous apporte aussi des éléments par rapport au combat Gandalf - Balrog - toute ressemblance avec des faits étant "décrits" par ailleurs n´est absolument pas fortuite ;-) :
[citation=HoMe III, The Lays of Beleriand, Fragment of an alliterative Lay of Eärendel, p. 142]... how Glorfindel the golden in the gap of the Eagles
battled with the Balrog and both were slain :
one like flash of fire from fanged rock,
one like bolted thunder black was smitten
to the dreadful deep digged by Thornsir.[/citation]
Un autre passage, moins concluant, mais il pourrait vous donner des idées :
[citation=HoMe II, The Book of Lost Tales - Part Two, The Fall of Gondolin, p. 194]Then Glorfindel leapt forward upon him [le Balrog] and his golden armour gleamed strangely in the moon, ...[/citation]
- d´autres éléments intéressants sur le retour de Glorfindel au 3ème Âge :
[citation=HoMe XII, The Peoples of Middle-earth, Glorfindel I, p. 378]We can thus understand why he seems so powerful a figure and almost `angelic´. For he had returned to the primitive innocence of the First-born, and had then lived among those Elves who had never rebelled, and in the companionship of the Maiar for ages : from the last years of the First Age, through the Second Age, to the end of the first millennium of the Third Age : before he returned to Middle-earth.[/citation]
[citation=HoMe XII, The Peoples of Middle-earth, Glorfindel II, p. 381]To these [les Maiar]he had now become almost an equal, for though he was an incarnate (to whom a bodily form not made or chosen by himself was necessary) his spiritual power had been greatly enhanced by his self-sacrifice."
- au sujet du combat Glorfindel - Balrog, voici ce que j´ai trouvé, et cela peut s´accorder avec mon explication. Mais cela nous apporte aussi des éléments par rapport au combat Gandalf - Balrog - toute ressemblance avec des faits étant "décrits" par ailleurs n´est absolument pas fortuite ;-) :
[citation=HoMe III, The Lays of Beleriand, Fragment of an alliterative Lay of Eärendel, p. 142]... how Glorfindel the golden in the gap of the Eagles
battled with the Balrog and both were slain :
one like flash of fire from fanged rock,
one like bolted thunder black was smitten
to the dreadful deep digged by Thornsir.[/citation]
Un autre passage, moins concluant, mais il pourrait vous donner des idées :
[citation=HoMe II, The Book of Lost Tales - Part Two, The Fall of Gondolin, p. 194]Then Glorfindel leapt forward upon him [le Balrog] and his golden armour gleamed strangely in the moon, ...[/citation]
- d´autres éléments intéressants sur le retour de Glorfindel au 3ème Âge :
[citation=HoMe XII, The Peoples of Middle-earth, Glorfindel I, p. 378]We can thus understand why he seems so powerful a figure and almost `angelic´. For he had returned to the primitive innocence of the First-born, and had then lived among those Elves who had never rebelled, and in the companionship of the Maiar for ages : from the last years of the First Age, through the Second Age, to the end of the first millennium of the Third Age : before he returned to Middle-earth.[/citation]
[citation=HoMe XII, The Peoples of Middle-earth, Glorfindel II, p. 381]To these [les Maiar]he had now become almost an equal, for though he was an incarnate (to whom a bodily form not made or chosen by himself was necessary) his spiritual power had been greatly enhanced by his self-sacrifice."
À vous, je n´ai plus le temps aujourd´hui ...[/citation]