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  Pourquoi ses pseudos
Posted by: Laure - 29-01-2003, 00:04 - Forum: Espace libre - Replies (3)

Je suis sur ce forum seulement depuis hier, et il y a une question que je me pose: Pourquoi avez-vous choisi ses pseudos? Vous le trouvez juste joli à entendre ou il y a une signification plus particulière?

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  Questionnaire
Posted by: Laure - 29-01-2003, 00:00 - Forum: Les Adaptations et créations - Replies (28)

Je suis en train de monter un dossier sur "l'adaptation cinématographique d'une oeuvre littéraire", et j'ai bien sûr choisi le "Seigneur des Anneaux". J'ai besoin de plein d'avis DIFFERENTS! <p>1°Connaissiez-vous le livre avant les films?<br>2°L'avez-vous lu? Si oui, avant ou après avoir vu les films?<br>3°Avez-vous aimez les films? Oui, non. Pourquoi?<p>Merci d'avance, toutes les réponses sont importantes!<p>

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  Naheulbeuk
Posted by: Bibi - 28-01-2003, 19:56 - Forum: Tolkien sur JRRVF et les médias - Replies (2)

et non, et non, Bibi n'était pas mort... il est de retour (enfin...) et avec des bonnes nouvelles (non pas la mienne j'ai pas le temps d'écrire)<br>J'invite tous les fans d'Heroic fantasy, de nains barbus, d'elfes magnifiques et surtout de D&D à aller là: <p>http://www.penofchaos.com/warham/donjon-telecharge.htm<p>(desolé je sais pas faire les liens alors faudra copier/coller)<br>et à télécharger "Le donjon de Naheulbeuk" vous m'en direz des nouvelles...<p>Ps: comment ça a changé en 6 mois !!!

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  A quoi ressemble vraiment la Terre du milieu?
Posted by: Laure - 28-01-2003, 17:14 - Forum: Le Légendaire - Replies (3)

Salut à tous, ça fait seulement quelque heures que je visite ce forum, mais je me pose depuis longtemps une question: a quoi ressemble la terre, "la planète" où se trouve la Terre du Milieu? Par ce que c'est pas logique sur toutes les cartes, il y a de l'eau à l'Ouest et le terre semble s'étendre plus vers le Nord,le Sud et l'Ouest. Et c'est où Valinor? Merci d'éclairer ma lanterne.

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  Orlando Bloom II
Posted by: Selwyn - 28-01-2003, 13:53 - Forum: Les Adaptations et créations - Replies (50)

D'accord pour avoir enlever les topic d'oB, mais pourquoi ne pas en laisser 1 ?

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  tolkien et l'école
Posted by: Claire - 28-01-2003, 13:42 - Forum: Les Langues Inventées - Replies (2)

je vous passe ce long mais interessant message. Désolée, c'est en vo.<br>qu'en pensez-vous ?<br>amitiés, claire Panier-Alix<br>____________<br>Class based on 'Lord of the Rings' languages helps give a weighty college <br>ý <br>ý <br>ý01/26/2003 <br>ý <br>By LINDA K. WERTHEIMER / The Dallas Morning News <br>AUSTIN - The University of Texas students scribbled their names in a strange <br>language. The A's looked like F's, the P's resembled gibberish. <br>They were in their second day of learning Old English runes, the writing <br>system used by author J.R.R. Tolkien to invent the languages Elvish, Orcish <br>and Dwarvish for The Lord of the Rings.ý<br>ý <br>ý <br>At UT, the tongues revived by the hit film trilogy are being used to teach <br>the millennial generation this semester. Already, students are raving about <br>the new course, titled "The Linguistics of Tolkien's Middle Earth." Both <br>sections of the class are full, and hundreds of students are on waiting <br>lists to get in.ý<br>ý <br>ý <br>ý"So far, I love it. I like the visual, seeing the runes on the board," <br>said Elizabeth Nelson, a 19-year-old UT senior who has three fairy tattoos. <br>A tattoo of the Lady Galadriel is on her midriff. "I like being able to say <br>that I know how to write my name in runes. Lots of my friends are jealous." <br>ý <br>Fred Hoyt lectures during his "Linguistics of Tolkien's Middle Earth" class <br>at the University of Texas at Austin. Mr. Hoyt hopes the course will inspire <br>students to study linguistics.ý<br>ý <br>ý(HA LAM / Special to DMN)ý<br>ý <br>UT isn't alone in jumping on the Tolkien bandwagon. This fall, three <br>Dallas-area universities will team up to teach a literature class about <br>the trilogy for students from the University of Dallas in Irving, Southern <br>Methodist University and the University of Texas at Dallas. <br>The trend isn't new. For at least two decades, some professors have taught <br>popular culture classes about film and TV shows and at times faced ridicule <br>from colleagues. The difference now is that more professors are unabashedly <br>linking movies and books their students adore with traditional, often <br>weighty subjects, from physics to philosophy. Pop culture is no longer <br>viewed as a nonsensical subject.ý<br>ý <br>ý <br>The idea of connecting traditional classes and popular culture grew rapidly <br>the last five years, said Robert Thompson, a Syracuse University professor <br>of media and popular culture. Textbooks such as The Simpsons and Philosophy: <br>The D'oh! of Homer and Seinfeld and Philosophy: A Book about Everything <br>and Nothing helped move the trend along, he said.ý<br>ý <br>ý <br>ý"College students know an enormous amount about television, about popular <br>music," Dr. Thompson said. "If we can use that knowledge to invite them <br>into other kinds of work, it'd be silly not to."ý<br>ý <br>ý <br>But professors can't simply show film clips and play sound bites of popular <br>music. <br>ý"If you're trying to teach Plato using Seinfeld and Simpson, that's a fine <br>thing to do," he said. "But if you never get around to reading Plato, you've <br>failed." <br>ý <br>At Hobart and William Smith Colleges in Geneva, N.Y., students have been <br>able to sign up for "Beam me up, Einstein: Physics through Star Trek" since <br>ý1997. Don Spector teaches the course every other year for nonscience majors. <br>Dr. Spector shows bits of Star Trek episodes based on whether there's a <br>physics principle he can teach. Students, for example, watch a clip about <br>a cloaking device. (Translation for nongeeks: a gadget that renders objects, <br>typically spaceships, invisible and undetectable.) Then the class talks <br>about what principles could be used to create the device. <br>ý"I have fun with it. I like teaching in this way better probably because <br>they are more engaged with it," Dr. Spector said. "Physics always has this <br>reputation of being so hard and so out there. It helps the physics to bring <br>something that's so accessible." Lyrical literature <br>David Gaines, chairman of the English department at Southwestern University <br>in Georgetown, Texas, teaches a literature class based on Bob Dylan. <br>ý"It's not, 'Let's just listen to "Tangled Up in Blue" 70 times and go home <br>and listen to it more,' " Dr. Gaines said. "It's a way to engage students <br>with materials they're interested in and urge them to take that a little <br>further." <br>Using the work of Tolkien as the focus for linguistics makes perfect sense, <br>he said. The students think critically about a book they have read for <br>pleasure in the past.ý<br>ý <br>ý <br>The three Dallas-area schools teaming up for the class this fall will link <br>the Tolkien trilogy to religion, medieval philosophy and other areas, said <br>Dennis Kratz, a UTD professor and dean who will help teach the course. <br>ý"What's really happening today is the old notions of pop culture and high <br>culture, except for the extremes, have blurred," Dr. Kratz said. "When <br>you redo La Bohéme as Rent, is that high culture or middle-brow culture?" <br>ý <br>The Lord of the Rings is a bit of both, he said. <br>ý"I just think it's such a very deep, satisfying, intellectually pleasing <br>work of literature, and yet it's fun," Dr. Kratz said. <br>UT instructor Fred Hoyt, a graduate student, created the Tolkien course <br>to meet a requirement that he create an introductory linguistics class. Both <br>sections of his classes, one with 30 students, one with 70, filled <br>immediately; he would have been able to fill each class 10 times over, <br>based on waiting lists.ý<br>ý <br>ý <br>Linguistics link Mr. Hoyt said there's a logical connection between the famous ýauthor and linguistics. Mr. Tolkien was a linguist before he was a novelist. One ýof the required texts in the new UT class is The Languages of Tolkien's Middle <br>Earth, another author's interpretation of the invented tongues. Mr. Tolkien <br>based the languages on Old Norse, Old English, Gothic, Welsh and Finnish. <br>ý <br>Mr. Hoyt, like many of his students, began reading the author's books as <br>a child. He said the work gave him a love for new languages, though he didn't <br>know about linguistics at the time.ý<br>ý <br>ý"Part of the reason I wanted to offer this course was when I was an <br>undergraduate, I wish I had known about linguistics," he said. "In my <br>department, there's more focus on teaching. Linguistics is hard. It's more <br>like we're realizing we always could've gotten to more people." <br>His hope is that some students will want to study the discipline after <br>taking his class.ý<br>ý <br>ý <br>ý"It's not about the movies. The stuff we're interested in is the stuff <br>left out in the movies," he said.ý<br>ý <br>ý <br>Students must read The Lord of the Rings and familiarize themselves with <br>the appendix that explains the development of the languages. They'll study <br>Old English runes, but they'll also learn Angerthas Daeron, the Elvish runes <br>that Mr. Tolkien created, and Angerthas Moria, the Dwarvish runes. <br>They'll talk about how Elvish sounds melodic and the Black Speech in the <br>trilogy sounds harsh. "The good guys in his book speak beautiful languages, and ýthe bad guys speak ugly languages," Mr. Hoyt said. <br>Students said professors are right to find ways to connect teaching to <br>students' lives.ý<br>ý <br>ý <br>ý"If it's interesting and relevant, you'll learn it better," said Alex <br>Hancock, a junior. Professors, even when they include popular film or books, ýare careful to teach in depth, said UT senior Travis Lara. <br>ý"It's not more bells and whistles," he said. "It's more involvement with <br>students." Eric Lee, an engineering major, never intended to study linguistics ýuntil he saw "Middle Earth" in the course title. <br>ý <br>ý"I saw it advertised on the front page of the UT Web site," Mr. Lee said. <br>ý"I was like, 'Cool. I have to take this class.' "ý<br>

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  LotR location guidebook
Posted by: Eruvike - 28-01-2003, 09:59 - Forum: Les Adaptations et créations - Replies (1)

Ian Broglie vient de faire paraître un guide pour ceux qui voudraient se rendre sur les lieux ou la Terre du Milieu a pris corps, en Nouvelle Zélande :<br>http://nzfpm.marketeer.co.nz/category.pasp?emguid=02F08761699C40209D0CCBD95D0B1048&categoryid=43

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  Mais où est Marie Arwen ???
Posted by: Limma - 27-01-2003, 21:26 - Forum: Espace libre - Replies (5)

Quelqu'un sait ?

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  Sauron aveugle?
Posted by: Tailindil - 27-01-2003, 18:41 - Forum: Le Légendaire - Replies (5)

je me demandais, pourquoi, Sauron, qui étais si attentif à ce qu'étais devenu son Anneau Chéri, ne le détecte pas avant....je m'explique.<p>Sam, à la jonction des tomes 2 et 3, n'ose enlever l'Anneau....il est à ce moment à la limite, si ce n'est en Mordor....<p>je me demande comment Sauron peut ne pas l'avoir détecter.... <p>surtout que Sam le garde un certain temps quand même...<p>Curieusement, <br>Tailindil

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  Lindon au 3eme age
Posted by: Coeur de Canard - 27-01-2003, 16:01 - Forum: Le Légendaire - Replies (78)

Bonjour,<p>Si je ne m'abuse le Lindon fut le royaume de Gil Galad et survecu a sa mort puisqu'il (le Lindon pas Gil Galad) envoya des troupes a la bataille de Fornost.<br>Je me pose quelques questions:<br>- quel est sa situation et son role dans la guerre de l'anneau ?<br>- qui sont ces dirigeants ? (ma comprehension est que Cirdan ne dirige que les Havres et de toutes facons on voit mal un Sindar dirige un royaume Noldo.<br>- Quelles sont ses relations avec les nains des montagnes bleux (au passage les cites naines des montagnes bleux forts celebres au 1e age semblent etre moins brillante au 3eme).<p>Ou alors j'ai rien compris (encore !) ?<p>CdC

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