08-07-2004, 19:02
Laegalad,<p>nous nous comprenons très bien ! :-)<p>pour "Rushey" : la faute n'en incombe pas à Céline, mais aux personnes qui révisent le SdA. et il me semble bien, d'ailleurs, que c'est _moi_ (ou Bill, je ne sais plus) qui ai plaidé pour cette solution.<br>voici l'explication, telle qu'elle se trouve dans l'article « Traduire Tolkien en français : On the Translation of J.R.R. Tolkien's Works into French and their Reception in France » (2003), écrit (en anglais) avec Daniel Lauzon et David Riggs, et paru dans l'ouvrage dirigé par Thomas Honegger, Translating Tolkien - Tolkien as Translator, paru en mars 2003 chez Walking Tree (cf. http://pourtolkien.free.fr/Translating%20Tolkien.html, les § précédents évoquent la question des noms propres et de leur traduction :-)) :
[citation]<i>To suggest etymology, and the presence of words within words, we have also decided to amend Ledoux’s decision to leave the Shire placename of Rushey untranslated (FR 130). Tolkien suggests that this name should be translated, meaning “Rush-isle” (Lobdell 1975 : 190) ; the basis of the French translation must be “jonc” (rush), but instead of using “jonchaie,” “joncheraie,” “jonchère” (the place where rushes grow), we have decided upon “Joncquisle,” which complies with The Guide’s indication and attracts the reader’s attention because although there is no actual etymological connection with jonquille (daffodil), it does look like it, and it conspicuously contains “jonc” and “isle,” an archaic spelling form for “île” (island). This may be a way to invite an awareness that Tolkien’s names have an interesting etymology, and that there is more about them than meets the eye - to paraphrase Gandalf’s comment about Frodo (FR 430).</i>[/citation]
Voilà : ici, le dessein des réviseurs/traducteurs a pris le dessus !
Et, par souci de cohérence, ce choix s'est imposé pour _ATB_
Amicalement
Vincent
[citation]<i>To suggest etymology, and the presence of words within words, we have also decided to amend Ledoux’s decision to leave the Shire placename of Rushey untranslated (FR 130). Tolkien suggests that this name should be translated, meaning “Rush-isle” (Lobdell 1975 : 190) ; the basis of the French translation must be “jonc” (rush), but instead of using “jonchaie,” “joncheraie,” “jonchère” (the place where rushes grow), we have decided upon “Joncquisle,” which complies with The Guide’s indication and attracts the reader’s attention because although there is no actual etymological connection with jonquille (daffodil), it does look like it, and it conspicuously contains “jonc” and “isle,” an archaic spelling form for “île” (island). This may be a way to invite an awareness that Tolkien’s names have an interesting etymology, and that there is more about them than meets the eye - to paraphrase Gandalf’s comment about Frodo (FR 430).</i>[/citation]
Voilà : ici, le dessein des réviseurs/traducteurs a pris le dessus !
Et, par souci de cohérence, ce choix s'est imposé pour _ATB_
Amicalement
Vincent